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Maybe Gwen Ifill Will Be Good Luck

She did moderate the Edwards/Cheney debate where Edwards ended up looking like a fool:

Ms. Ifill Next question goes to you, Mr. Vice President. I want to read something you said four years ago at this very setting: Freedom means freedom for everybody. You said it again recently when you were asked about legalizing same-sex unions, and you used your family as an experience – your family experience as a context for your remarks. Can you describe, then, your administration’s support for a constitutional ban on same-sex unions?
Mr. Cheney Gwen, you’re right. Four years ago in this debate, the subject came up and I said then, and believe today, that freedom does mean freedom for everybody. People ought to be free to choose any arrangement they want. It’s really no one else’s business.
That’s a separate question from the issue of whether or not government should sanction or approve or give some sort of authorization, if you will, to these relationships. Traditionally, that’s been an issue for the states. States have regulated marriage, if you will. That would be my preference.
In effect, what’s happened is that in recent months, especially in Massachusetts but also in California, but in Massachusetts, we had the Massachusetts Supreme Court direct the State of – the Legislature of Massachusetts – to modify their constitution to allow gay marriage. And the fact is that the president felt that it was important to make it clear that – that that’s the wrong way to go, as far as he’s concerned. Now, he sets policy for this administration, and I support the president.
Ms. Ifill Senator Edwards, 90 seconds.
Mr. Edwards Yes. Let me say, first, on an issue that the vice president said in his last answer before we got to this question, talking about tax policy. The country needs to know that under what they have put in place and want to put in place, they – millionaires sitting by their swimming pool, collecting their statements to see how much money they’re making, make their money from dividends, pays a lower tax rate than the men and women who are receiving paychecks for serving on the ground in Iraq. Now, they may think that’s right. John Kerry and I do not. We don’t just value wealth, which they do. We value work in this country. And it is a fundamental value difference between them and us.
Now as to this question, let me say, first, that I think the vice president and his wife love their daughter. I think they love her very much. And – and you can’t have anything but respect for the fact that they’re willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. It’s a wonderful thing. And there are millions of parents like that who love their children, who want their children to be happy.
And I – I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, and so does John Kerry. I also believe there should be partnership benefits for gay and lesbian couples in long-term committed relationships. But we should not use the Constitution to divide this country. No state for the last 200 years has ever had to recognize another state’s marriage. This is using the Constitution as a political tool, and it’s wrong. …
Ms. Ifill Mr. Vice President, you have 90 seconds.
Mr. Cheney Well, Gwen, let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter. I appreciate that very much.
Mr. Edwards You’re welcome.
Ms. Ifill That’s it?
Mr. Cheney That’s it.

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