When Dustin Carmack first met Ron DeSantis at a Heritage Foundation dinner in 2012, he made a couple of early observations: One, that at 34, DeSantis was young for a congressman, and two, that he was articulate and interesting. He gave off the vibe of a frat brother who happened to be “rocking James Madison quotes verbatim off the top of his head,” Carmack said.
Carmack, then a young Heritage Action staffer, came away impressed. He and DeSantis had a “mind meld on policy,” he said. He’d never wanted to work on Capitol Hill, but ended up going to work with DeSantis, first as his legislative director, then as his congressional chief of staff.






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