Chris Christie thinks that Tim Pawlenty is behind in fundraising and support right now because he’s not better known.

“I think anybody who knows Tim Pawlenty [knows] he’s a very serious guy and I think he’s got real life experience, both as a politician and as a person,” Christie told Politico.

“But, like, why does it take so long for people to catch on?” Christie asked. “Who knows. I think it’s a product of personality, it’s a product of where you come from. So I don’t think there’s any one particular thing with Tim but I can tell you, knowing him personally, this is a serious guy who’s got serious ideas for the country and really wants to be president. So he’s gonna have his opportunity to have that come through.”