The latest Bookmonger podcast is with Will Morrisey, author of Churchill and de Gaulle: The Geopolitics of Liberty. This is the all-Hillsdale College podcast, with me (director of the journalism program) asking questions of Will (politics professor) in my office on campus. Will explains the nature of statesmanship and what made both of these 20th-century leaders so good at it. I press him on de Gaulle. Was he really that great?