I thought Rich was great on C-SPAN. He made it look easy, but in fact

thinking on your feet like that isn’t easy at all. Interesting to see how

the antiwar callers cut, paleocon vs. liberal. I thought there’d be more

paleos, but actually there seem to be a lot of Sean Penn liberals out there.

As antiwar cases go, the paleos’ is much stronger than the liberals’. The

liberal case is just–as always with liberals–rooted in wishful thinking.

I’d like to see a good knock-down debate between one of us pro-war

conservatives and an antiwar paleocon. That would be an instructive and

elevating debate. On this one, liberals are just nowhere.