I joined Rick Santorum as a radio co-host this morning, and during the three-hour show, we talked with “The Hammer” himself, Tom DeLay. DeLay was undeniably pessimistic, but he offered one note of hope — this litany that I Tweeted while he was on-air: “Social security, broke. Medicare, broke. Medicaid, broke. Then this is going to come in and go broke.”

He thinks Marcy Kaptur is likely to vote with the team: “She’s super-liberal, and she believes in it.” She’s going to vote yes, he thinks. “Kildee gives her political cover,” he says.

On Jerry Costello, he characteristically didn’t hold back: “He can be bought,” he said with confidence.

The most striking and alarming thing he said, though, was that in all his time on the Hill, he “never saw [Democrats] lose a major vote.” He admitted, though, there was never an issue quite like this one — as comprehensive, as charged.

His bottom line: “This is going to pass, unless the American people really come out.”

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