Jay and I wade into the delicate matter of the name Redskins. Neither of us thinks it’s nice, nor would we have chosen it, but is that reason enough to end it? Do Native Americans even care, or is this the province of professional offense takers?

We then explore the question of Republicans and Hispanics. Is a big, bad, bureaucratic immigration bill the only way for the Republican Party to win more Hispanic votes and thus, more elections?

I school Jay on the finer points of the cello body (which I then promptly forget), and we muse about how and why we first became conservatives. Race — the perennial wound of American history — plays a big part for both of us.

Come and eavesdrop on a comfortable chat between good friends.