A few hours before last night’s debate, a nervous pair of Need to Know hosts sat down for a podcast. Jay was in Des Moines. Mona’s heart was there. No debate between us, well, not much of one, but we had a lot to say (surprise!) about the frontrunner and what his success might mean for the party and the country. If the podcast couldn’t avoid Trump, it didn’t exclude other topics either. We talked a bit about guns, Harry Reid, Mona’s personal experience with Obamacare, the estimable president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University (he will NOT be inviting Donald Trump to speak), and Jay’s encounter with a movie star. We close with a classic tribute to Iowa from Meredith Willson’s The Music Man.