Maddy Kearns brings her journalistic expertise to bear on the news of the Tavistock gender-clinic closure. The clinic was shut down after a review found there were “huge concerns over the lack of follow-up, the lack of transparency, the overlooking of blatant co-morbidities.” Kearns says on the latest episode of the Editors that “children with gender dysphoria will be treated at hospitals where mental health will be the focus — which is huge.”

Rich reminds listeners that this has been Michael’s point for some time now: We’ll start to see the end of this madness with the advent of a mass class-action lawsuit. “Maddy says this is a ‘shot heard ‘round the world,’ Michael said, “but I’m a little afraid that the Tavistock clinic is going to be used as a scapegoat and it will eat all the institutional sin this time, but other clinics are going to rise in its place.” While he does view what the NHS has done as a “huge warning shot,” he thinks “the victory is still pretty far off.”

Closer to home, the U.S. media is still abuzz over the FBI’s search of Mar-a-Lago. Inside job? Major mess-up? Speculation abounds, but the editors stick to the core of the issue and engage in some serious legal-terminology parsing.

Our editors also consider Donald Trump’s grip on the GOP. Like him or not, his charisma and larger-than-life personality are keeping him in the public eye, and the GOP needs to decide how it will handle this come 2024.

Listen below to hear the whole conversation.