Matthews interviewed Jim Cramer on last night’s Hardball. Interestingly, Matthews and Cramer were in agreement that the U.S. needs to go nuclear:

MATTHEWS: So, what are we going to be paying a gallon of gas? Twenty bucks a gallon? CRAMER: I think that it‘s conceivable that we could be paying $10, $15 a gallon in the next five years.We‘re just not finding any, Chris. And we‘re not—we haven‘t switched to nuclear power. Even the fastest—the fastest we could have nuclear power in this country, a new plant, is 2014. MATTHEWS: OK. Look, look, that‘s the biggest tax people are going to be paying. A working guy or working woman who has to commute a decent amount of miles to work complains about taxes, as they should, because they have got to be careful about how much they pay. CRAMER: Right. MATTHEWS: The biggest tax, the biggest bite out of our wallet, or our butt, or whatever you want to call it, looks to be me to be oil in the years ahead, just taking more and more of your money that should go to food, tuition, an occasional ball game or movie, or new shoes. That money is going to be going to oil. CRAMER: Dead right. Now, there‘s going to be basically a tax on the consumer. We are going to see $4 — $4 a gallon. We should see that in the next three months, because of the refinery runs. This is going to slow down things. It is unavoidable. That‘s why we need the housing business cleaned up, because we are certainly not going to get a break for the consumer from oil. MATTHEWS: Yes. What can a president or a Congress, if they were doing the job for the people, do…CRAMER: Well… MATTHEWS: … to keep—to at least slow down the growth of oil? I know the world market is going to drive the price up, because everybody else is buying it. What can they do to keep the price from going up any faster than it has to? CRAMER: Well, I do—I do—I do think that someone should go over to Saudi Arabia and say stop it, stop it. We know you‘re raising the price because the dollar is going down. We need a break. And you know what? I have to tell you, we are—I‘m starting to feel like that, if we get the right person in president, they will do what they did in Brazil. Take a nasty recession, get off the—the gasoline dole…MATTHEWS: Yes. CRAMER: … which is what Brazil did. Otherwise, I got to tell you, we‘re in really, really bad shape, much worse. I wish the president would even address the issue. MATTHEWS: Well, this is GE Green Week. And we‘re all part of that family. But is there anything that looks to be on the table?I‘m looking at the bill that Markey is pushing on the Hill. I don‘t know what Dingell is going to with it, but they‘re talking about energy efficiency. They‘re talking about fuel economy, you know, the CAFE standards, all that good stuff. Is that going to happen? CRAMER: Yes, I think it actually will happen. I think that we‘re pretty desperate these days. I have to tell you, though—and we have been doing a lot of Green Week stuff on “Mad Money”—there are a lot of companies that are beginning—First Solar stock was up 50 points today. They are producing actually voltaic cells that are cheaper actually—because of this price that oil is at, cheaper than oil.We are beginning to see wind power actually being much cheaper than oil. Now, I know those are small substitutes. But, if we could just push nuclear in this country, we could—we could unhook ourselves from oil. But you can‘t build a plant in less than seven years in this country. And that‘s a travesty. MATTHEWS: You know what I think? I think nuclear is coming. And I think it‘s coming if people have to choose between the outside risk of nuclear and the near-term reality of high gasoline prices that are killing the average family economically, they are going to go with the nuclear…CRAMER: You‘re right. Look…MATTHEWS: … like it or not. CRAMER: … Democrats and Republicans agree. It takes only three years to build a nuclear power plant now. They operate much cheaper than coal. MATTHEWS: Yes. CRAMER: They absolutely have no pollution. My take from Green Week that we have been doing this week is, nuclear must happen now. It can be our salvation, Chris. MATTHEWS: OK.Thank you very much, Jim Cramer.CRAMER: Thank you…