Mona interviews author Nina Teicholz about her new book The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat, and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet, which explores how scientists, public-health authorities, government agencies, and nutritionists were so wrong for so long about what we should eat. Then Jay joins in to discuss ​recent court decision on Obamacare and the ongoing crises in the Middle East and Ukraine.

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