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Former vice president Mike Pence fields questions from Tucker Carlson at the Family Leadership Summit in Des Moines, Iowa, July 14, 2023.
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During his time on the stage at the Family Leader candidates’ forum in Iowa, Mike Pence was goaded by moderator Tucker Carlson into a heated back and forth over the notion that Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky has “persecuted Christians.”
The entire exchange is worth watching:
About the Author
Noah Rothman is a senior writer at National Review. His third book, Blood and Progress: A Century of Left-Wing Violence, was published by Hachette in May 2026.
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During his time on the stage at the Family Leader candidates’ forum in Iowa, Mike Pence was goaded by moderator Tucker Carlson into a heated back and forth over the notion that Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky has “persecuted Christians.”
The entire exchange is worth watching:
About the Author
Noah Rothman is a senior writer at National Review. His third book, Blood and Progress: A Century of Left-Wing Violence, was published by Hachette in May 2026.
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