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Even NBC employees doubt Brian Williams is telling the truth when he says he simply “made a mistake” when claiming he was on a helicopter shot down over Iraq in 2003.

CNN media reporter Brian Stelter said that while the story of what did or didn’t happen in that Chinook is “confusing and complicated,” it’s clear that the NBC anchor was not in the helicopter that was struck by an RPG and forced to make a crash landing in the Iraqi desert.

“He was somehow embellishing or misleading people,” he said, “or, if you believe his version of the story, just making an innocent mistake.”

“The reality is, I can’t find many people at NBC that think he’s making an innocent mistake,” Stelter continued. “There’s a lot of anger at NBC among people who think he might be misleading.”