Today’s Between the Covers podcast is with Gabriel Schoenfeld, author of Necessary Secrets: National Security, the Media, and the Rule of Law. We talk about whether New York Times reporters who spill the beans on secret anti-terrorists programs should be writing their prison memoirs right now, how journalists are supposed to balance between the demands of a free press and the requirements of national security, and whether George Washington had to deal with harmful leaks. I describe one of my own (few) encounters with classified information here.